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The Wikipedia article on the LK II https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LK_II says that "the M/21-29 at the German Tank Museum, (is) modified back to its original German design."

German LKII light tank, at the Deutsches Panzermuseum.jpg

Surely, this is the original German design:

Light tank LK II: German armored car for Hungary and Sweden

Or is that not what they mean?



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I saw that too and puzzled over it. My thought is that when they restored the M21-29 they reversed the alterations made to the original

M21. I suspect the assumption that was made is that the M21 is the same as the German LK II. I'm not sure that assumption can be sustained since the

Swedes received the tanks as a pile of components and built some tanks out of the parts. How close the M21s were to the original LK II is a matter of debate.

Charlie 



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Have you seen this thread?

 

https://landships.activeboard.com/t17150538/the-lk-tanks/

 

This answers some questions



-- Edited by elbavaro on Friday 29th of October 2021 07:49:16 PM

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elbavaro wrote:

Have you seen this thread?

 

https://landships.activeboard.com/t17150538/the-lk-tanks/

 

This answers some questions



-- Edited by elbavaro on Friday 29th of October 2021 07:49:16 PM


 Yes, Christoph, it does, but unfortunately not the question I'm asking. What I mean is: do they mean they returned a 21/29 to the 21, or to the LKII as it was in the factory in Germany?



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OK, got it.

Based on the weapon I would say m21.

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I know - I'll contact the museum and see if they can tell us.



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Maybe there was an LK-II male and female like there was for British tanks?



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In "Classic Military Vehicle Magazine" Issue 114 (November 2010) there is an article about the strv m/21 called "Swedish Whippets" by David Fletcher. 

On Page 22 he states: "In 1929, five of them were rebuilt with more powerful Scania-Vabis 85 bhp engines that raised the top speed to 11 mph (18 km/h) and with thicker armour and, in this form, they were designated strv m/21-29......One of the surviving rebuilt tanks went to the Panzermuseum at Munster, where one hopes that it is displayed as a Swedish Tank and not a German might-have-been."

The presentation of the tank as an LKII at the Panzermuseum would appear to show David's hopes haven't been met. The article goes on to point out there is only one surviving m21 (which would be the closest match for an LKII) and this is in Sweden. There are two other surviving m/21-29s, also in Sweden

There is an excellent section on the SPHF (Swedish Historical Armour Society) website ( https://www.sphf.se/svenskt-pansar/historia/en_purchase-and-manufacturing-of-stridsvagn-m21-swedish-lk-ii/) titled "The purchase of the LKII from Germany and the manufacturing of the Stridsvagn m/21 in Sweden." This provides a well presented description of the circumstances in which the Swedes purchased their 10 LKII tanks, along with some great copies of historical documents and photos of both the machine gun armed LKII and the strv m/21.



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Alas, thanks to the internet, history has been rewritten several times, also in this forum. And yes, I mean it ironically! How often do I read an answer like: "this tank was painted… green" (sometimes even with an additional indication to a Humbrol colour). Any reference? Negative report!

 

But this contribution (and of course some others in this forum) is an absolute highlight: extensively researched and provided with indication of source.

 

 

Thank you very much!!!

 

 

 



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