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I am scratch building Koeningsberg gun used in East Africa. I have seen several remaining guns, but they seams to be different one from the other. Is there anyone who knows more about those ex naval guns?


 


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Looks like you're doing a good job as it is!


Anyway, information seems to be conflicting - the usually-reliable NavWeaps site says the 10.5cm guns were L/40, but other sites say L/35. The following site has two photographs of surviving guns on improvised field mountings in Mombasa and Johannesburg (one photo looks the same as one of your black & white pictures, but is in colour):


http://www.richthofen.com/konigsberg/wrecks_relics/


Here is a nice big photo of the Mombasa gun:


http://home.arcor.de/anett.graef/kenya_neu/KoenigsbergGun.jpg


I wouldn't be surprised if the carriages are different, as they were improvisations built, it transpires, in the Dar es Salaam workshops, but the barrels should be the same as they came from what one would expect to have been a uniform outfit on the vessel.


This site - http://www.oz.net/~markhow/pre-dred/bits.htm#Königsberg - says the South African gun is in Pretoria, not Johannesburg.


There is some interesting information, but no pictures, of the South African gun near the bottom of this page:


http://rapidttp.com/milhist/vol032dh.html



-- Edited by Roger Todd at 22:40, 2006-05-15

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Thank you Roger!


I am sculpting all range for East Africa now...


I think the wheels on remaining guns are British made after the guns were captured… Well one can never really know…


 


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ivstefano wrote:


Thank you Roger! I am sculpting all range for East Africa now... I think the wheels on remaining guns are British made after the guns were captured… Well one can never really know…   Thanks again!   I  


I hadn't thought about the wheels possibly being replaced. Hmmm... Maybe you should contact this chap (from http://www.worldwar1.com/sfkonig.htm):


Kevin Patience, author of a number of books and articles on East African military and transport history, published Konigsberg - A German East African Raider in 1997, which tells the full story from the launching to the present day, illustrated with numerous photographs many of which have never been published before. Available from the Author at kjpatience@hotmail.com. Hardback, 120 pages, 150 illustrations including rare photos, maps and appendices. UK £15 inc P&P elsewhere US $ 30 inc P&P


Looks like an interesting book anyway (loads of photos!), and you never know, he might have exactly the info you're after!


Anyway, let us know how you get on!



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This is a very good article on these guns. It covers both the 8,8cm L/30 and the 10cm in German East African service:

http://www.sacktrick.com/igu/germancolonialuniforms/militaria/koenigsberggun.htm

Also, I have a good restored example of the same type 8,8cm L/30 used in African service. The one I have is still on its ship-board mount.

www.lovettartillery.com


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