Landships II

Peter T · General

RE: Artillery tractor

Arie Dijkhuis · General

Hi Peter,

Looking at these boxes, I think you are right. They are of very sturdy construction, unlike the other stowage boxes. They seem to be built for carrying a lot of weight. That leaves the question how shells and propellant was stored, standing upright of lying down.

With kind regards,

-Arie.

Arie Dijkhuis · General

Hi Peter,

So you think the 2 boxes on the side are not boxes at all, but just loading doors so you can enter the back from the sides. The Horch indeed does not seem to have a box there.

With kind regards,

-Arie

CharlieC · Legend

What sort of 15cm projectile - gun or howitzer? I have a French manual of German projectiles with sizes and colours - easy to pull these out.

I have no idea what packaging the Germans used - I know the field guns often used wicker baskets for the field gun projectiles but I have no idea whether

this was universal for all calibres.

Kaiser's bunker has a page on cartridge cases used with the 15cm guns.

Regards,

Charlie

Arie Dijkhuis · General

Hi Charlie,

These tractors pulled the 15cm K16 guns.

With kind regards,

-Arie.

Arie Dijkhuis · General

Hi Peter,

I think you are right, these are not boxes.

With kind regards,

-Arie.

CharlieC · Legend

There seem to have been two projectile types used with the K16 guns. They weighed somewhat over 50kg and were 700+mm long.

The cartridge case for the K16 is documented at: https://www.kaisersbunker.com/cc/cc06.htm

Regards,

Charlie

Peter T · General

CharlieC wrote:
I have no idea what packaging the Germans used - I know the field guns often used wicker baskets for the field gun projectiles but I have no idea whether this was universal for all calibres.

Thanks Charlie! And you are right, neither I found informations on packaging of these projectiles. There are some pictures of ammunition dumps on the Internet, but I can't make out which calbres...

Arie Dijkhuis · General

Hiya Gents,

Definitely baskets. I think the propellant was carried in baskets as well...

With kind regards,

-Arie

Arie Dijkhuis · General

found another one.. smile

Arie Dijkhuis · General

...and the shell case is of similar size, 72.2 cm.

-- Edited by Arie Dijkhuis on Saturday 18th of February 2023 12:39:44 AM

-- Edited by Arie Dijkhuis on Saturday 18th of February 2023 01:18:37 AM

Arie Dijkhuis · General

Hi Peter,

I have to admit that I am pretty pleased with the result so far...

The engine is far from finished, but even in this state it looks quite good. I was never going to do the engine, but after being inspired by your work I decided to give it a try. I am very glad I did, so thanks!

With kind regards,

-Arie.

Peter T · General

Hi Arie
It was the right decision to add the engine and it also contributes a lot to the impressive appearance of those vehicles. Must have been an insiane sight in those days...
I should also admit, that I have been inspired by your work too! After having seen, that you did some rivets on the cab (which are actually nail heads) even in that small scale, I decided to add some to my cab too.

However, even it catches the effect of nailed plywood, it is somehow too uneven and couldn't bee seen in the printed surface!

I will see...
Peter

Arie Dijkhuis · General

Hi Peter,

That looks great! You have even drawn the dents where the nails have been driven in! If you use a resin printer, this will definitely print well and will give the model a great look!

With kind regards,

-Arie.

Peter T · General

Alas, it’s (still) not in my prefered 1/25 scale, but the project is moving forward.

First fitting of parts without glue as to be seen on the St. George Model’s facebook page:

Arie Dijkhuis · General

Hi Peter,

Wow, that looks great! Have you received a copy yet?

With kind regards,

-Arie.

Peter T · General

Thanks Arie! Not yet, as it's far away from being finished. So now I am hard at work trying to fix all parts that must be reworked.
Cheers, Peter
BTW. Have you seen that new and rare picture on Ebay of the six-cylinder too?

Arie Dijkhuis · General

Hi Peter,

No, I hadn't seen this one, so thanks for sharing! I always thought that this captured vehicle had the upper part of it's loading platform removed, but your picture shows this is not the case. Have you any idea of what it is pulling? It looks like some 15 cm Russian or Belgian captured guns.

You may still be far from finishing this vehicle, it still looks very impressive! Did you draw the figure as well? He looks very nochalant and I love the pose!

With kind regards,

-Arie

Peter T · General

Hi Arie
I have the intention that with this six-cylinder an attempt had been made to reconcile all different demands in one vehicle. In the fourth picture of my six-cylinder thread you can make out that small loading platform and also the fastening device. So it is equally a prime mover and a ammunition carrier. That huge radiator doesn't fit somehow either!
And no, the figure is from Yury himself! I am not as talented as he is...
Cheers, Peter

Arie Dijkhuis · General

Hi Peter,

You could be right, all pictures I have of the 6-cylinder do have more or less the same construction at the back.

I too have not even tried to draw a figure as I think my skills are not good enough. Then again, my computer would probably not even run the complex geometry.. smile

With kind regards,

-Arie.